home of the brave. ♪ ♪ it's where fear goes unwelcomed... ♪ ♪ and certain men... find a way to rise above. this is the land of giants. ♪ ♪ guts. glory. ram. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: who do you think the larger force in america, the democratic party? the republican party? or independent? really, if you guessed independents, you're right. look at this chart since 1990 independents are winning. they used to be lower than democrats and republicans until 1990 but then they take off and as you see they're at the end they're starting to pull away. that's 43% number for the republicans is wrong. independents actually higher than both republicans and democrats. okay so obviously the independents since they're so strong they're representing the upcoming presidential debates right? wrong. they're not represented at all. here is gary johnson from the libertarian party. we'll talk to him on the show. he's not there. and then rocky anderson from the justice party. a man who is actually progressive. the man who used to be mayor of salt lake city and the man who joins us no